These ‘regular people’ promote a dangerous view of marriage and gender

This article originally appeared at Baptist News Global on December 4, 2025.

“I’m just a regular guy,” Speaker of the House Mike Johnson told Katie Miller with his wife, Kelly, sitting next to him for the Katie Miller Podcast. “We’re simple people,” Johnson later added as the couple discussed everything from how Mike doesn’t like mayonnaise, bananas or candy corn to what he thinks about the hit show “Dancing with the Stars.”

“We’re very simple people, yeah,” Kelly Johnson affirmed.

For the record, as Katie and Kelly giggled about the contestants dancing the Cha-Cha, Mike chimed in with a grin, “This is such a girl show.”

It’s the first of Katie’s cute couple interviews in which she sits down with members of the Trump administration and their wives. This week’s guests are the Hegseths, where Katie asks the TheoBro who is accused of war crimes and mass murder how he likes his wings.

Stephen Miller, White House deputy chief of staff, and his wife, Katie Miller, an aide for DOGE, attend the White House Easter Egg Roll on Monday, April 21, 2025. (Tom Williams/CQ-Roll Call, Inc via Getty Images)

At first glance, everything looks like a fun time. Katie has her infectious smile, trendy style and potentially hilarious “Would-you-rather” questions. You’d have no idea she goes home after the interview to Stephen Miller, the White House deputy chief of staff who angrily yells at a funeral: “You have nothing! You are nothing! You are wickedness! You are jealousy! You are hatred! You are nothing!”

You’d have no idea how Mike Johnson has used his power to promote discrimination against LGBTQ people or how he ignorantly declares, “Go pick up a Bible … that’s my worldview.”

Whether interviewing the Hegseths, the Johnsons or whoever else she may have on next, Miller’s goal seems to be to normalize the way these men view marriage. That’s ironic given these same people are always so concerned that any portrayal of LGBTQ people simply existing for a few seconds of screen time might normalize same-sex marriage.

Since they care so much about what is being normalized, perhaps we should take a look at Miller’s interview with the Johnsons to see what sort of marriage they want to see normalized.

‘The good man scorns the wicked’

Their interview begins by casting the difference between Republicans and Democrats as a dichotomy between goodness and wickedness.

“The Bible says that you’re supposed to bless those who persecute you. I mean, that’s heavy. That’s heavy,” Mike begins as he tells how he feels about the Democrats coming after him. “But there’s also a favorite Psalm that we always repeat to one another. Psalm 37. And it says, ‘Do not fret when men succeed in their wicked ways.”

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